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Using Styles in your KN7000 - CUSTOM Memory

One of the much-underutilised features for many KN7000 owners is the CUSTOM memory area of the rhythm group. This area comes pre-loaded with 20 styles and they are pretty good ones too! These 20 CUSTOM memories are there for you to store your styles for i…

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Using Styles in your KN7000 - CUSTOM Memory

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One of the much-underutilised features for many KN7000 owners is the CUSTOM memory area of the rhythm group. This area comes pre-loaded with 20 styles and they are pretty good ones too! These 20 CUSTOM memories are there for you to store your styles for instant recall during a performance, so you are intended to replace the ones that are pre-loaded with your favourite new styles.

It's also notable that the 20 styles you store in these memories are persistent. You don't lose them when the keyboard is turned off. Some of the other memories in the instrument only last for 80 minutes or so when you turn off.

Most of us, when we start with our KN7000s don't want to lose those initial 20 original styles, so this feature doesn't get used to the full. I'll be posting the original styles on the site in the near future. So, from then on you will be able to keep them safe, or restore them if you have lost them. This will enable you to experiment with loading new styles without fear of losing the originals. I'll reply to this topic when the styles are available for downloading.

You can load new styles from the Composer memory into any of these 20 CUSTOM 'slots' and they will always be there for your use. So as you audition new styles and find your favourites, add them to CUSTOM. Styles stored here can also be saved direct to SD card and then re-loaded when you wish. This has to be done one-at-a-time. I would love to be able to refresh 20 at once!

Let us know how you get on or if you have any hints and tips on the subject by replying to this post.

Posted on June 12, 2014 at 11:03 PM
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Re: Using Styles in your KN7000 - CUSTOM Memory

I use panel memories and save to Sd Card - then locate the settings in 'favorites' for instant call up. The advantage is that you can use the footpedal to move from one panel memory to the next keeping both hands free to play.

Posted on June 14, 2014 at 6:01 PM

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Re: Using Styles in your KN7000 - CUSTOM Memory

Absolutely, that's what I usually do too but there's a subtle difference if you copy them to the CUSTOM rhythm group. You'll know a lot of this but I'm writing for everyone's benefit so I'll go into detail. Take the following scenario:

CUSTOM MEMORY - Part 1

Let's say you have a style called SUNNY DAY loaded into COMPOSER Memory A. You set up Panel memories 1 to 4 in PANEL Memory Bank A to store the sounds and effects you want. You can set up your Performance Pads for that style also if you want to. Then you copy COMPOSER Memory A to CUSTOM Memory 1, for example, any one of the 20 available.

Now, when you select CUSTOM - SUNNY DAY, you can use the four variations of the rhythm without changing your sounds and effects, just like a normal rhythm. Or you can select Music Style Arranger and the instrument sounds of the four variations will be the ones that you set up in those four Panel memories earlier.

PANEL MEMORY

I'm going to go off on a slight tangent now and talk about PANEL Memories. We have 13 PANEL Memory BANKS and each has 8 Panel Memories, so there are 104 sound registrations that you can save in all of those. You can name each Bank and each Panel Memory in order to keep track of them. So you could have a Big Band Bank with 8 PANEL Memories in it, for example.

You can use the PANEL Memories in EXTEND mode so that they select the rhythm when you select a Panel Memory. I don't do that because I want to select from any of the sound registrations I've set up without changing the rhythm.

Taking our example, this means that you could play SUNNY DAY using big band sounds and then swap to another panel memory for the strings to take over, or a jazz guitar and vibes, then swap the rhythm to a swingy style and back again, whatever you wanted. You can also select the Music Style Arranger to get back those four sounds registrations that you originally set up to go with the SUNNY DAY style whenever you have it playing. So it is equivalent to having an extra 4 registrations for each of the 20 CUSTOM styles that you have created. Ones suit that Custom style.

Your 104 PANEL Memories can stay constant. When you are changing from one Preset or Custom style to another, you can recall any of the 104 sound registrations you prefer.

For information - the Panel Memories are stored for about a week. So if you turn on your keyboard more than once a week you should be fine but it is always best to back them up on an SD Card.

Now to the interesting part...

CUSTOM MEMORY - Part 2

So you have set up 104 sound registrations that you like in the Panel Memories and you have loaded 20 styles into the Custom Memory (I have no idea when, there are never enough hours in the day!). This means that you have a further (20 x 4 =) 80 sound registrations available. This gives a total of 184 registrations at your fingertips (and more to come later).

Now, 20 songs sounds like a "cabaret set" to me. Two performances of 8 or 9 songs with a few spare for the encores! So we can set up 20 CUSTOM Memories and that will do an entire set for us. Or if we're playing at home we can have our favourite 20 styles saved there. Plus we can use any of the built-in preset rhythms (and their numerous registrations that are in the Music Style Arranger, I don't have time to count them now!).

Up until now I haven't really made use of the 20 CUSTOM Memories, I have just loaded a style into the COMPOSER along with a few PANEL Memories that I like, ones that suit the style. That's because it all seemed too cumbersome to me, to be loading styles and copying them one at a time. You couldn't make use of them in a live environment, I thought, so I didn't bother.

Well, dear reader, please forgive me if this is not new to you but it is new and exciting to me. You CAN load or save all 20 CUSTOM Memory styles at the same time from the SD card. I didn't realise this until now!

To save them: Press the SD button > Press Load > Select the Technics file format > Go to Page 2 (this is the part I didn't realise) > Ensure that ALL CUSTOM STYLE is selected > Press SAVE

Loading all 20 is virtually the same process.

The reason I've written at such length on the subject is because this 'little' feature has completely transformed the flexibility of the instrument for me! It means that I can have 'performance sets' saved on SD card that I can load in seconds.

I have to admit that I feel a bit dense for not realising this before now but as I said in one of my first blogs, when I first got my KN7000 I had to go out and gig with it quickly to make it pay for itself, so I haven't had an opportunity until recently to delve more deeply into the various features. One of the main reasons for starting this website is to help me (and all of you) to discover these things.

PROS AND CONS

Loading a COMPOSER - well, it is quick and easy. If you use the EXTEND feature to set tempo and everything else you want for one song this is a great way to prepare the instrument and that's what I have always done to date. I don't like the way that my PANEL Memories change all the time using this method but it does mean that I can use the first few Panel Memories and I always know where I am.

Loading 20 CUSTOM Memories - I think that this is the way I'll go from now on. I'll be able to work on my Banks of Panel Memories to store all of the sound registrations I like and I will be able to load sets of 20 'numbers' for instant recall, along with my repertoire that uses the built-in rhythm styles. In fact, I think I'm more likely to convert my repertoire that uses the built-in styles to sets of CUSTOM Memories too because it will give me more flexibility to change the built-in ones and save them as I prefer.

WHAT NEXT?

At the moment I'm preparing to go out gigging with my son (guitar and bass) and daughter (singing and many other things including drums and balalaika). So the obvious thing is to prepare a set of 20 for that.

I'm guessing that many of you might own the superb Andrew Lloyd Webber collection of styles by Technote. Up to now I have been loading them one at a time, feeling quite frustrated that I can't remember which numbered file goes with each song. So one of the first things I'm going to do is load them into CUSTOM Memories and save the whole set to have a play with! There are actually 21 songs but there is at least one that I don't like. If you don't have them, they are available from Strawberry Music for just £11.79 at the moment.

Well, I wanted to share my 'new find' with all of you, I hope those who know all these things already will forgive my enthusiasm and also please help to correct any errors I've made whilst writing this. As I've written at length I hope to convert this into an illustrated article on the website in the near future so all corrections, spelling pickups and contributions will be gratefully received.

Best wishes,
Mike

Posted on June 15, 2014 at 6:36 AM

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Re: Using Styles in your KN7000 - CUSTOM Memory

In addition to all of the above are the FAVOURITES that Rog mentioned and also the CUSTOM PANEL, which is a sort of emergency button of your favourite registration which never gets overwritten... but I must stop writing now and cook my boy some breakfast!

Posted on June 15, 2014 at 6:38 AM

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Re: Using Styles in your KN7000 - CUSTOM Memory

I have added the 20 original CUSTOM styles as a download on this page -http://technicskn7000.com/about/stylist-reprise/...

Posted on June 23, 2014 at 6:43 PM

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Re: Using Styles in your KN7000 - CUSTOM Memory

This info is much appreciated and I am giving it a try. While we're on the Panel Memory topic can you tell me how to copy a Panel Memory number to a Panel Memory number to another song? I have downloaded some BigBand songs and would like to copy the best of these sounds which suit me from each one and make up another song with them. For example, I want to copy the settings from Panel Memory 6 say and put it into another song at say Panel Memory 2. I could enter the instruments into a new song but some of the sounds in the BigBand songs sound as if they have been finely tuned; something I don't particularly want to spend time doing if I could just copy a part from one Panel Memory into another. So far I can only copy a complete song's Panel Memory to a new one with a different name, but I don't want all the sounds (1 to 8). Hope this makes sense.

Posted on April 13, 2015 at 6:09 PM

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Re: Using Styles in your KN7000 - CUSTOM Memory

Hi Malcolm,

Thank you, I really must make this post into an article when I get chance.

There are at least two ways to do what you want. I'll describe both because they are useful in different scenarios. I can think of at least one more but it's pretty complicated.

The first is the standard way. For the sake of the example let's call the Song "My Way".

1 - Make a note of all the panel memories you want to move to "My Way". Note the Song they are in, the Panel Memory Bank and the Panel Memory number. Note also where they are stored on disk or SD Card.
2 - Load "My Way" so that it is in memory.
3 - Press and hold the SD Card button (or Disk button if floppy disk).
4 - Hilight a Song that contains a Panel Memory that you want to copy to "My Way".
5 - Go to PAGE 3 of the load screens. This is one of the powerful but under-utilised pages! Here you can select the Panel Memory mode and then select the Bank and Memory of the selected (hilighted) Song and determine where it will load to in your current Song ("My Way).
6 - Repeat 3 to 5 until you have all the PMs loaded where you want them and then exit out of the load screens.
7 - Because "My Way is the last song you actually loaded, you can now save it without having to rename it.

The second way is powerful and will suit many different ways of playing.

When you Save or Load a Song, unless you go to PAGE 2 of the Load or Save screens you will be loading the first three Banks of Panel Memories. A, B and C. So with every normal Load and Save operation you're taking 3 Banks of 8 PMs = 24 PMs.

However, there are another ten Banks of Panel Memories (10x8 = 80). Press the Bank button and go to PAGE 2 to see them. There are some great PMs in there but out of those ten Banks there is sure to be a Bank that is not to your taste!

So, Find a PM that you like in any Song. Then go to one of the ten additional Banks and save it there. The name of the PM will be saved too, or you can rename it (renaming of Banks and Memories is done on PAGE 3). You could call it BigBand 2 if you like and want to keep the original BigBand bank. Collect the PMs you like in this Bank.

Normal Load and Save operations won't affect the ten additional Banks, so you can just swap to them anytime to use your favourite PMs. This is a good way to work because Banks A, B and C will change all the time but Banks 1 to 10 won't change unless you decide that they should. These ten banks SHOULD contain your favourites for recall at any time and you should spend some time naming them and familiarising yourself with them.

So now you can Load "My Way" and use your new Bank of PMs.

If you really want to have the PMs in the "My Way" Song, just press the PM button in your new Bank, change to Bank A and Set one of the PMs there. It will take the PMs name with it. Now you can save "My Way" with those PMs but they will still also be in your new Bank so that you can use them with any other Song you Load without fussing about grin

Keep a special place on your SD Card for doing backup saves (or some floppies for the same purpose). Every so often you can Save all of your Panel Memory Banks. To do that you go to PAGE 2 in the Save screens and under Panel Memories you can tell the keyboard to save all of them instead of just the first 3.

Using the ten extra Banks as described above should change how you play significantly for the better and make you less reluctant to load new Styles that might upset your favourite settings.

Sometime soon, possibly tonight, I'll be releasing some customised Home Pages that will help with some of the above by making it more clear which of the 13 Panel Memory Banks is in use. I'll send a newsletter when I release them so look out for that.

Best wishes,
Mike

Posted on April 13, 2015 at 7:24 PM

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Re: Using Styles in your KN7000 - CUSTOM Memory

Mike, you're a genius. Many thanks. I have so far managed to copy individual Panel Memory Buttons from one song to another and have created a song with all my favourite big bad sounds. Great. Now how can I do the same thing but not save the Styles and tempo so that I can call up the voices without changing the current Style and Tempo. I'm now about to try the second way using the Banks in the keyboard. Will let you know how I get on.

Posted on April 14, 2015 at 1:42 PM

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Re: Using Styles in your KN7000 - CUSTOM Memory

Styles and Tempo are always stored in Panel Memories. However, they are not always recalled when you press a Panel Memory button.

Press and Hold the SET button. On the resulting screen you can choose whether your Rhythm and Tempo will be recalled, or just the Sounds and balance settings.

This can be adjusted even further by going to Page 2 when you Press and Hold the SET button.

The HOME PAGES I mentioned are now available at:

http://technicskn7000.com/about/home-pages/...

These are .HMP Files.

Best wishes,
Mike

Posted on April 20, 2015 at 2:09 AM